WOW! What an amazing day for Medical Liberty at the State House yesterday!
The power of the Hoosier voices was heard!
Around 20 State representatives were said to have asked Hoosiers to stand in solidarity with them yesterday, November 29th, for about an hour. A crowd quickly amassed at 10 am on the third floor. The Legislators were expected to address the Medical Liberty Activists around 10:20.
The atmosphere was great, 100-150 Hoosiers were excited to share their testimony and looked forward to not only being heard, but UNDERSTOOD by legislators who were interested in protecting their rights.
I think it’s fair to say that the crowd expected to hear the legislators talk about how they were going to address the shortcomings of the preliminary draft presented last week and move forward with true Medical Liberty.
Hoosiers started getting restless. By 10:50 myself and other leaders had received many questions about where the legislators were or if they were even going to show up.
There was discussion amongst leaders and the Representatives asked that Hoosiers wait until 11am. The crowd was addressed.
I encouraged Hoosiers to attempt to meet with their legislators, take our survey, and proceed to their representative’s offices in an attempt at having a one on one. I encouraged them to be firm yet RESPECTFUL to their representatives, in spite of the disrespect they’d been shown. You can download and send our survey to your legislator. It is designed to determine their level of commitment to medical liberty so Hoosiers know where their legislators stand.
Sometime after 11am a small number of Representatives finally made it to the 3rd floor.
Did they really think they could request citizen support, only to jerk them around, make them wait over an hour?
Is your time not to be respected?
As Reps began addressing the crowed it was clear that Hoosiers were upset.
The people were not there to give praise because “something is better than nothing.”
Hoosiers were there to hold the line.
House representatives would have loved nothing more than to have had a pep rally over the crumbs offered by the preliminary draft and their willingness to simply show up to work.
House Reps were quickly snapped back into reality as constituents began telling the hardships they are facing.
Hoosiers are losing their jobs.
Hoosiers are stressed and struggling.
Hoosiers are facing Medical Discrimination that is IMPEDING their care and healing.
Hoosiers were not shy in voicing their concerns with the mounting issues caused by mandates and discrimination related to vaccination status.
Representative Alan Morrison stated “we have to get something passed now before Hoosiers lose their jobs.” Several spoke up and said “Many Hoosiers already have!”
Other issues continued to be addressed including Dr. Stock regarding medical exemptions, “You will NOT save jobs, if you make it so that they have to have a letter from their doctor. Me and one other doctor in the state of Indiana will write that letter. These doctors have financial guns to their heads. They won’t write the letter!”
Representative Morrison defended his position by saying “We are doing everything we can right now.” The crowd responded with “No, you’re not!”
Then an elderly lady spoke up asking “Sir, will there be any protections for patients against how healthcare workers are treating the unvaccinated, because they are wearing us down?”
Dr. Stock spoke up again and said “Vaccine non-discrimination legislation is the only thing that will take away the teeth they are imposing this with. They have so much control over the healthcare system, you will not do this with an exemption bill.”
Another lady spoke up about ‘Right to Try’ indicating we should have the choice to try off-label usage medications and we should not have to take vaccines.
A young man spoke up about the NEJM studies showing vaccine immunity wanes in two months and the risk is far greater than any potential benefit. He presented printed studies to Rep. Morrison.
The people were upset. They didn’t feel confident that they are being heard, properly represented, or protected.
They were explicitly clear in their desires but were only met with excuses and explanations of “how politics works.”
The insincere efforts to address medical liberty couldn’t have been more obvious. After failing to provide much information about improvements other than the “addition of teeth” through an amendment at a later time, frustrations continued to grow. Some legislators suggested other amendments that would protect Hoosiers. Sadly, the amendment mentioned was already addressed and voted down by these same legislators during the past session.
After fielding some pretty hard-hitting questions and facing some accountability for past actions the Q&A was ended so that constituents could address legislators individually.
All in all, it was a wonderful day and Hoosiers were heard, even if they weren’t listened to.
Are they addressing Medical Liberty after months of your calls due to a change of heart?
Some will say that the House Reps made it clear that addressing Medical Liberty is a priority simply by filing the preliminary draft as a bill.
However, the actions of the Representatives tell me otherwise. Just like making the people stand around and wait at the state house, they have made it clear that the PEOPLE ARE NOT THEIR PRIORITY by filing House bill 1001 the way it is written.
Example: the requests of citizens were ignored, while lobbyist were granted some of their wishes.
We have also heard from some of those present, that individual conversations indicated that the priority was in fact to protect the rights of business rather than the citizens.
Looking at the details:
🚨 Legislators are still trying to make an unfair trade, using your medical liberty to make the state of emergency a part of permanent law.
🔥 In doing such they are opening up our state to unprecedented federal overreach at the discretion of an unelected bureaucrat.
💥Further, they are disrupting the patient physician relationship by allowing young children to be vaccinated in pharmacies and vaccine clinics rather than under the watchful eye of their physician.
🚨They are excluding State Institutions and Hospitals from the vaccine passport ban.
🌪 Several issues with the proposed language for exemption. We firmly believe passing exemptions law only reinforces discrimination and segregation created by mandates. These protection are already established under the civil rights act, though they are often ignored. Read more here!
🚨 We noted in review that none of the request of constituents were addressed in this version HOWEVER lobbyist request to remove pregnancy or anticipated pregnancy as a medical contraindication was removed.
Does this show you how dedicated they are to your Medical Liberty?
Please visit our blog to see the other issues present.
That is all pretty heavy!
Do not be discouraged, Folks!
We are winning!
I know it doesn’t feel that way, however the legislators are ONLY taking action because YOU have forced them to.
Don’t back down!
Don’t fall into the trap of playing games!
Do NOT be placated by access! Turn up the heat! Now is not the time to stand down and accept crumbs.
Be bold! Be Brave! Keep holding the line!
🚨🚨Call to action!🚨🚨
HB 1001 has been assigned to the House Pensions and Labor committee. Time to start taking action.
We must ensure that we are adequately represented.
Call these five members of the Committee and tell them:
“Separate the state of emergency from Medical Liberty protections in HB 1001! We will not settle for an unfair trade and insufficient protections of our medical liberties. We will not tolerate discrimination by mandatory testing of employees exercising exemptions.”
Heath VanNatter 317-234-9450
Dave Abbott 317-232-9643
Dan Leonard 317-232-9802
Jerry Torr 317-234-3827
Joanna King 317-232-9657
Get this call to action sent straight to your phone. Text 260-286-0988: 1001
Hoosiers for Medical Liberty will continue to support you! We will continue to provide updates and action alerts! This is a fluid situation and we are keeping our finger on the pulse of every action and inaction being taken by our legislators.
Thank you for your ongoing support! YOU are why we do what we do!
We are here to support, YOU, THE PEOPLE of our great state in your quest for Medical Liberty!
Ashley Grogg & Sandy Spaetti
P.S. Today is Giving Tuesday, we would appreciate you choosing Hoosiers for Medical Liberty as one of your charitable organization today.
P.S.S. Did you know that The Global Covid Summit is coming to Indiana?
Sat. Dec. 4th Dr. Richard Urso, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Heather Gessling, Dr. Dan Stock, Dr. Peirre Kory, Dr. Paul Marick and many others will be attending!
Please join us for physicians, scientists and frontline professionals to discuss, share insights, and analyze findings regarding COVID-19 treatment and care.
The groundswell of angry voters has the Indiana GOP on their heels.
Your voices can no longer be ignored, and a small portion of the Indiana State House of Representatives needs your help to stand up to leadership.
You read that right.
After ignoring MONTHS of your desperate cries for help, pleading for action to end the state of emergency, and a YEAR of trying get them to reinforce your right to exemptions before losing your jobs, they are asking YOU to come to their rescue.
Are you ready to run to their aid?
Do you trust their motives are pure?
I don’t know about you, but I am a little suspicious. What do Hoosiers stand to gain by attending a gathering Monday morning at 10am when the special session was cancelled?
The legislators present know that they will not be passing any legislation that day. If they were truly motivated to pass protective legislation, they would not simply be calling for your presence. They would be working on continuing to grow the number of legislators present. They know they need a majority to move anything! They know they could force the hand of the Speaker (Todd Huston) by standing together. The Speaker needs them to keep his job!
What efforts are they putting in to show sincerity?
Could this just be more smoke and mirrors?
Hoosiers shouldn’t blindly trust the legislators that have put the rights of businesses over the rights of individuals for months and even voted in opposition of Medical Liberty.
The GOP learned a valuable lesson this Thanksgiving week when they offered an egregious preliminary draft in attempt to barter for your rights at the last minute.
Hoosiers would have gotten an unfair trade.
Over 60 people attended Tuesday’s last minute public testimony for the preliminary draft. Hoosiers saw through the plan and refused to make “tradsies” on a weak offer.
Make NO mistake, your presence was a powerful show that Hoosiers will NOT compromise on our rights.
The GOP got the message, Hoosiers are not willing to trade temporary “feel goods” for long term government overreach.
Legislators now know they MUST end the state of emergency and ban mandates in two separate acts. These two issues are clearly demarcated in the minds of Hoosiers and looming variant hysteria threatens both issues.
So what now?
Why are these 20 or so State Representatives asking for your help?
Was the public testimony alone responsible for a change of heart?
While the public testimony was intense and heartbreaking, the legislature has been hearing similar stories from you for months. I don’t think that is what has pushed them forward. So what is?
They are scared.
No, they are TERRIFIED!
Hoosiers showed up at the State House IN MASS with little to NO warning.
You were not only present, but you were powerful.
You were articulate.
You were EDUCATED.
I couldn’t be more proud of all of you. But the GOP- they really are shaking in their boots.
They are concerned that you will hold them accountable for failing you time and time again over the past two years. They want to lull you into a sense of security before the 2022 primaries.
They want you to sit back and TRUST they will do the right thing.
Hoosiers, WE KNOW BETTER.
Complacency and apathy will be the DEATH of Liberty. I would like to hold out hope that the legislature has had a true change of heart and is ready to take action.
We need proof. We need a way to keep them accountable.
To meet this need Hoosiers for Medical Liberty has prepared a simple survey for Indiana state legislature to show their commitment to protecting your medical liberty. H4ML will be attending Monday and circulating the surveys to legislators in attendance.
In order to ensure all legislators have the opportunity to show sincerity, not only will we will be emailing them all a copy. We know how quickly things like this “get lost” in email. So, we encourage everyone to help in the return of these surveys. Below you can download and print off a copy. You can either take a paper copy to your legislator or start emailing them asking them to complete and return the form to H4ML themselves.
Further, when presenting legislation, legislators need to ensure they take a principled stand. The information below outlines what constitutes as a principled stand.
This is our minimum.
To attend, or not to attend. That is the question.
Stand for Health Freedom, Leah Wilson has organized an hour of testimony in the public space on the 3rd floor of the State House Monday November 29th at 10am. Session will not be held. There are not enough legislators to take any form of action.
If you feel called to be there, do it.
If you concerned about missing work or not having the time off to attend State House Events during session then follow your heart.
I cannot answer this for you. I don't want to discourage anyone from activism, but sometimes we have to prioritize.
If you have a testimony you would like to give but cannot attend we will be scheduling and recording 10 minute slots and adding them to the testimonies already on the website!
Text 260-286-0988 the word TESTIMONY for more information.
Thank you for doing your part in the fight for Medical Liberty. Hoosiers never cease to amaze me! You are effectively creating change by standing firm and making your expectations clear.
Ashley Grogg MSN-RN
Hoosiers for Medical Liberty Founder
Tens of thousands of Hoosiers are suffering as a direct result of vaccine mandates. We must not get weary and accept crumbs from the statehouse.
They MUST give us something to be thankful for.
The proposal you are seeing is a direct result of your calls, emails, and meetings with your legislators.
They feel your pressure.
Stand strong for Medical Liberty. Now is not the time to compromise.
Make no mistake there is a reason they are splitting session around Thanksgiving. Their hope is that you are in “Holiday mode” and will be in a Turkey coma on Monday.
You have been asking for this for months. And now just a short month away from session they decide to throw you crumbs.
The state legislature has the power to end the state of emergency independently without the Governor’s approval using one of the HCRs filed.
They also have the power to end vaccine mandates. They are using your suffering against you, hoping you will take the unfair trade of exemption in order to accept an open door for Federal overreach.
What could be in it for them?
Is this just a ploy for political cover?
Are they trying to dodge the bullet of Liberty?
The historical voting of these representatives shows they try to squeak by with as little as possible.
While we are hopeful that Hoosiers will obtain protections, we must be vigilant.
The Indiana State legislature has the authority to end the state of emergency WITHOUT bowing to the demands of Gov. Holcomb.
Public testimony is TOMORROW November 23rd at 10:30 AM on the third floor of the state house. According to a staffer there is no prior registration needed.
The talking points below will help you feel comfortable testifying. At the bottom of this post you will be able to view the recorded meeting about what to expect. The video reviews parking, navigating the state house, and talking points.
Let's review the proposal.
Call to action:
Review the proposal bullet points above and pick 1-3 that personally effect you and your family. Be ready to discuss these issues with your legislators.
The following format may be helpful:
I want to discuss the proposed end to state of emergency and vaccine exemptions.
You need to
Then go into more detail for each issue and why it impacts you.
1. _____ has impacted my family by and if not continued….
2. _____ will ________ and because of that _________
3. _____ hurts people I love by _________
Close the conversation with something like: Thank you for taking the time to discuss this with me. I sincerely hope you will not only take this under advisement but vote in accordance with the peoples will.
Thank you for your dedication to Medical Liberty,
Did you know you can become a member of Hoosiers for Medical Liberty and support our mission? Visit our membership page to learn more!
Medical Liberty is a fight won through consistently mobilizing Hoosiers. We have worked hard to make sure this happens at key times, as you know printing, texting, zoom hosting and all our other resources come at a price. Will you support us financially? Text 260-286-0988 the word: GIVE or click here.
Have you ever met a bully that gives you two unequal options but wants you to think you are "coming out on top" because you have a choice?
Well, if you haven't it turns out you are being ruled by them, rather than represented by them.
Read what Rep Nisly has to say: https://mailchi.mp/curtnisly/an-unfair-trade?e=1a3a77236b
Do the three stooges, Governor Holcomb, Senate Pro Tem Rod Bray, & Speaker of the House Todd Huston, really think you are going to fall for "ending the state of emergency" by making LAWS that will ensure the issues with the state of emergency last for... ever?
What's worse is the stooges are up to the same old tricks: making decisions for the peasants- oops I mean, constituents BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
I am concerned about how these new laws will impact 5-11 year-olds, school vaccine clinics, and exemption laws.
Hoosiers do you want the roots of Federal Overreach digging deep into your laws?
Finally, I talk about accountability A LOT and how changes won't be made unless we not only voice our needs but hold elected officials accountable during elections. After Todd Huston's rumored refusal to meet with medical liberty activists I started getting messages about how to hold him accountable. Primary Challengers are outside the scope of nonprofits like H4ML. However our friends at Liberty Defense PAC are recruiting primary challengers across the state! See their video below and get more info from Liberty Defense PAC by texting: 260-693-7334 the word: ELECTION
Support the work of Hoosiers for Medical Liberty and keep liberty alive. Text 260-286-0988 the word: GIVE
Ashley Grogg MSN-RN
We received a lot of questions after our call to action. Some Hoosiers are baffled that this could be happening in our schools, while others are blown away at the brazen attacks on parental rights and the manipulation and coercion that their students are experiencing.
This may be the first of a series of parent testimonies creating a window into the inter-workings of "vaccine education" within the schools.
If you have a testimony or story that you would like to share please email it to contact@hoosiersformedicalliberty with the subject line: PARENT TESTIMONY
News is in the Zionsville Community Schools
Over the past couple of weeks there has been some very intense things happening at ZMS at the fifth grade level. I pray to God this is not happening with other grade levels but I am sure it is.
These examples are from three different teachers, not just the same one, which makes it more concerning as a parent who has a child that attends ZMS.
First, a fifth grade teacher sent an email stating that she will start changing CCR grades. She listed four things that would change a grade but the first one is the most disturbing: Follow classroom rules and procedures- is your student wearing their masks? Are they shouting out?
Next up is the fifth grade resource teacher who decided to show a CNN Video. Before starting the clip they asked, “please don’t take notes”. The CNN 10 episode discussed the vaccine for 5-11 years old for about 90 seconds but also discussed other political issues.
This one takes the cake, literally. One fifth grade teacher offered cupcakes to the children who get the vaccine. I was sick to my stomach when I heard this. I will make any child a cupcake by them a nice gourmet one from Kroger or the Market District if they don’t get one. By the way this is the humanities teacher that has them for multiple periods.
I respect teachers for what they do, my family is full of teachers. We must draw a line. Teachers are not a medical professionals. They should not give advice or talk about vaccines period. Before 2020 this was not done. Teachers do not belong in private medical decisions of minors.
Please, I beg of you teachers stay in your lane. Focus on teaching, as kids are struggling and are so far behind because the last normal school year, they had in Indiana was over 600 days ago.
Signed very concerned parent of children at ZCS
Does your child’s mere presence at school imply your consent to have them vaccinated?
We have been seeing clips from the World Health Organization (WHO) on “implied consent” buzz around the internet like hornets on honey!
Unless you are living under a rock you have certainly heard about this, and maybe even panicked a little.
We have seen a lot of talk but very little action on the matter. We intend to fix that. Scroll down for the call to action!
We can help you become the change maker in your area, but more on that later…
If you are in the vast majority of parents wanting to wait to vaccinate against COVID-19, you are probably overwhelmed with yet another obstacle facing the public school system and trying to figure out what to do next.
Are you planning to remove your children from school?
Do you have concerns that a school “pop-up clinic” might vaccinate your child without your knowledge?
We need to get to the bottom of this and FAST.
What is the truth?
The truth is…
The WHO did publish a pamphlet with the offensive language.
We have heard reports of schools historically attempting to vaccinate for the flu without written consent from parents.
Hold on! This should make you angry, but not scared.
We said that they “attempted” to vaccinate without consent from parents. The plans were foiled when concerned parents started to voice concerns and notify others.
YOUR VOICE MATTERS!
That should give you a new way to “channel” your anger.
After all, anger is only good when it motivates you to make positive change.
Change can only come from action.
This is probably one of the greatest shortcomings in the medical liberty movement in Indiana. We have a lot of concerned citizens trying to help, yet they are missing the mark. Why?
Many are willing to fan the flames and create anger and even fear surrounding the loss of rights. Few provide instructions on how to help fix a problem. This is one area that Hoosiers for Medical Liberty is committed to.
The last thing we want is for you to be scared and feeling helpless. When you are scared your brain tends to disengage. When you feel helpless you aren't motivated to make change. We need to be cool, calm, collected, and motivated while battling for our rights.
Hoosiers for Medical Liberty is here to help you move out of the flight or fight mode and into a space where you can effectively make change…
We need to look at a few more truths before we get there. We know WHO did release guidance on implied consent. We know that schools have historically attempted to try deploying these techniques.
But we also know…
Indiana State Code 16-41-9-1.7 on Immunization Programs states
“No person may be required to receive an immunization without that person‘s consent. No child may be required to receive an immunization without the consent of the child’s parent, guardian, or custodian. The state department may implement the procedures in section 1.5* of this chapter concerning a person who refuses to receive an immunization or the child of a parent, guardian, or custodian who refuses to consent to the child receiving the immunization.”
While this code does not specifically state how consent is to be obtained it is a standard rule that consent for a vaccination or procedure should be written.
Any time you visit a doctor’s office, hospital, or clinic you are presented with written materials and asked to sign giving consent for treatment.
Your pediatrician should ask you to initial a form for each vaccination on the childhood schedule.
Deviating from this standard protocol would seem to open the door to lawsuits against clinics AND the clinicians providing the treatments.
Read that again, bypassing standard consent procedures may open the clinic and or clinician to lawsuits. In health care, if it isn’t documented, it isn’t done. This is applied to providing consent as well.
Rights cannot be taken away, you must relinquish them.
The above mentioned does not mean we sit on our laurels and continue on without concern.
We must take action. The logical first step is to let the schools know that we are aware and will not stand for foolery.
Here is your call to action:
We demand transparency around vaccination clinics. If clinics are planned for our school written informed consent must be utilized. We will not stand for any form of implied consent procedures. Further, if clinics must be in schools, we expect vaccination times to occur outside of school hours to avoid vaccination mix-ups and disruption of the learning environment.
FACLHoosiers for Medical Liberty appreciates your dedication to ensuring the sanctity of bodily autonomy and informed consent. We know that you will do your best to ensure that this call to action is spread through out your county! We try to make it easy, simply share the graphic with your local groups!
You have read this far, I already know the answer to the following questions. But we will go through them anyway.
Are you a change maker?
Are you a powerhouse?
Can you help move Medical Liberty into the next stratosphere of success?
Like I said, I know you can! After all, every hero is just an ordinary person UNTIL the moment when they channel their anger or outrage into positive change.
If you aren’t sure where to start join me at a FACL Political Leadership school. This one-day class flipped me from a politically apathetic person into the Leader you see today.
I will be honest.
This is not for the weak.
This class is NOT for someone who thinks activism is trolling social media.
This class is not for those who aren’t committed to Liberty.
It will NOT convert someone from dull to dangerous.
IF you apply what you learned to the issues causing your anger you will become an effective agent of change. So if you are ready, go register TODAY!
Indiana’s last class of 2021 will be Saturday December 11th in Fort Wayne. We already have over 20 activists registered and ready to learn, you are going to want to be in this room!
What better gift to your posterity than the gift of Liberty!
Need more information or to look for a different date? Click here.
Ashley & the H4ML team
Ashley Grogg RN-MSN sharing insights, tips, and updates on Medical Liberty throughout the Hoosier state.